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Chthon · Jul 05, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Relambrien

However, what exactly does "redirecting" the program work? Honestly, I don't have a clue.

It sits between the GW client and DirectX (the windows component responsible for advanced graphics among other things) and waits for the GW client to say "Mr. DirectX, please draw Texture #1 on the screen," intercepts that message and replaces it with "Mr. DirectX, please draw Texture #2 on the screen." Neither the client nor the DirectX files are altered; rather the communication between them is altered.

Is this changing the software? That depends on whether you take a ones-and-zeros approach or an algorithmic approach to defining software (and, if you take an algorithmic approach, where you draw the line between the client software and windows software).

Does any of this matter? Not really. The powers that be have said that texture modding is OK, so texture modding is OK.

My understanding of Gaile's and Emily's posts can be summed up as follows. I'd appreciate official verification/correction.

Texture Modding is permitted. You will not be banned for it.
If other forms of modding become possible in the future, whether or not they are permissible will decided at that time, based on whether they can or do convey unfair in-game advantages.
There is no technical support for texture modding. Don't pester support about problems with mods/modding.
The original textures themselves are copyrighted works of art, so, if you extract them, don't use them for non-GW purposes prohibited by copyright law.

Does that about cover it?

Chthon · Jul 05, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Karlos

I just want to make sure people are clear about what's at stake here:

Fake modding software is the number ONE method for having your account stolen.

Just thought I would put that in bold clear print somewhere in this thread.

The issue is not the players with programming experience who want to fiddle with the executable and crash their GW for kicks while turning their Koss' afro into corn rows; the issue is those who do NOT program.

Many youth (ages 8 to about 16) are VERY careless about computer security. I help a lot of friends with their home PCs and the number one security breach is their kids. They download all these "cool" gadgets and toys that also install spyware and adware and mess up the memory and processing and completely bog down the machine.

These same guys see a website for "cool" GW mods that allow you to run around with a lightsaber... Ooooh! An opportunity to post a screenie and brag about it to your buddies in the guild. You download it, install it, start GW and true enough, your warrior is running around with a lightsaber.

Unbeknownst to you, the "mod" is also a "trojan." It logs all your key strokes and sends them over the internet to a bunch of bad guys. They read the keystrokes and see when you typed in the e-mail and can see the password typed right after it... They login into your account when you're offline. They transfer all your stuff into one of their chars and then leave you a naked wammo (albeit with a lightsaber).

I have friends in-game who had this happen to them. And then they use your naked character (while you're away) to advertise their site in-game. And when people report the nude dude, your account gets banned, not theirs. It's pretty insidious.

So, to all the young guys who are excited about downloading these mods... DON'T Download any mods off the internet.

Unless you're computer savvy, you're better off without a lightsaber.

I'd say this is a pretty strong argument for why a trusted, unified repository be created.

And, what the heck happened to my last post? It went poof?...
[edit: OK.. now I can see it... weird...]
[edit:
Does anyone know if Texmod supports command line parameters and what the syntax is?
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floppinghog · Jul 05, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

...lol i know blonde hair..

YOU KNOW, i'm trying to get rid of my fking underwear but it effects you head too so.. thats pretty lame. I was trying tobecome a full snowman! as you may beable to see this, plus my avatar's freezy crown!... o well ill go back to my other projects.

Silent Coyote · Jul 05, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Awsome, I can finally change the colour of my ele's hair! On another note it's interesting how ANet said a while back they couldn't providing an option for the old UI designs, yet people have all ready managed to make their own.

Anyway hopefully this will restore my interest in GW until GWEN comes out.

Lucifer PVP · Jul 05, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

I just logged on and my guy was wearing this ... omg the trojans did it.

Celestial_Kitsune · Jul 05, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

I hope modders will be kind enough to provide modular content (image files or tpf for individual features) in addition to their tpf files. Users may like only radar with spirit range and 50-80 health bars. It would be nice to get organized eventually and create a website with links listed by category to both comprehensive mods and some smaller scale individual feature mods such as radar with spirit range. Some kind of wiki page perhaps…

Turbobusa · Jul 05, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by floppinghog

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3424/surferlolpb0.jpg

you made me rofl for 10 minutes

Imaginos · Jul 05, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

I took this idea from that Quartz mod and made a mod with only the health bar upgrade, so now it shows the 50% and 80% mark, for a more effective use of ZB and LoD. Its not very attractive but it does its job.

if you want to use or improve it, download the picture above and open with WinRar, I included the tif, picture and log file.

Very nice. Thanks for supplying the rar with a raw png image in it, now I can find said texture number ingame and see why I couldn't get it before

davicams · Jul 05, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

this is on a shield of the lion anyone think it looks ok? if you can make it better plz do and repost for me to see thx

DarkNecrid · Jul 05, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Too bad its already been done modular wise (the health markers!)

TurinPT · Jul 05, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Imaginos

Very nice. Thanks for supplying the rar with a raw png image in it, now I can find said texture number ingame and see why I couldn't get it before

np, by the way I edited my post, new version looks nicer.

Darksun · Jul 05, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Gaile!
Is this stuff gonna get us banned?
I mean, we have to run GW from texmod, is that going to be considered a 3rd party bannable offense?

Bryant Again · Jul 05, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Hm. Does anyone have a different download link? My virus scanner keeps deleting the textmod.exe because it think it's a Trojan (the .exe I've been using is fine though, for some reason)

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Originally Posted by Darksun

Gaile!
Is this stuff gonna get us banned?
I mean, we have to run GW from texmod, is that going to be considered a 3rd party bannable offense?

Hard to say. They've said "hey yeah it's cool if you go ahead and mod", but yeah, you are right that this could potentially get you banned, perse. But I'm not entirely sure, there was a post a page or two back that brought this to attention. I remember being a little more relieved when I read it, though.

Willow O Whisper · Jul 05, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

would be nice if a-net gave us a official program, like the elder scrolls construction set for the elder scroll games.

Shadow Kurd · Jul 05, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Karlos

I just want to make sure people are clear about what's at stake here:[......]
Unless you're computer savvy, you're better off without a lightsaber.

TexMod has been around for soooooo long its trusted by so many modders(Infact wiki links to a TombRaider site for download). I can go on for ever naming games that have been modded with TexMod.

TurinPT · Jul 05, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

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Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper

would be nice if a-net gave us a official program, like the elder scrolls construction set for the elder scroll games.

that sounds like a great waste of time since theres already a perfectly functional free program.
as to those who are afraid of getting banned: its fine as long as you just use texmod to change the textures on the client side. Chthon's post made it pretty clear.

Rutabaga · Jul 05, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune

I hope modders will be kind enough to provide modular content (image files or tpf for individual features) in addition to their tpf files. Users may like only radar with spirit range and 50-80 health bars. It would be nice to get organized eventually and create a website with links listed by category to both comprehensive mods and some smaller scale individual feature mods such as radar with spirit range. Some kind of wiki page perhaps…

yea but people will just come and stole our job to add it in their mod

Willow O Whisper · Jul 05, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

that sounds like a great waste of time since theres already a perfectly functional free program.
as to those who are afraid of getting banned: its fine as long as you just use texmod to change the textures on the client side. Chthon's post made it pretty clear.

yea sure it works fine no doubt about it. However it is still consideret a third-part program by guildwars, so there is still a chance it will result in a ban. If there where a official program made to interact with the game, this problem could be solved.

Alias_X · Jul 05, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

I support what you guys are going here, and I think it is great! When GW2 is released, the ability to mod GW1 might play a big role in people still playing GW1.

As long as Anet doesn't have problems with it, keep up the good work!

Muspellsheimr · Jul 05, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd

TexMod has been around for soooooo long its trusted by so many modders(Infact wiki links to a TombRaider site for download). I can go on for ever naming games that have been modded with TexMod.

It's not TexMod that is in question - it is said lightsaber mod it runs that is in question.

And yes, until there is a trusted mod page up, I would not recommend anyone without computer knowledge from using these. Even if the modder who created the file is trusted, it is possible for the file to become infected from outside sources before you download it.

Now to the positive side - I can't wait for some mods that peak my interest to show up : )